Wanted center spar for Father/Son project

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    • #15631
      Glenn Mori
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      Hi y’all,
      My stepson and I have a chance to restore a AA-1B. The center spar is badly corroded and needs replacement. I was going to pass on this aircraft due to the spar issue but the owner is really bending over backwards for us to take it on and get it in the air again. My stepson is 16 and is currently learning in a C-140. My stepson really likes this plane. Any ideas where we can find one would be great.
      Thanks, Glenn and Dawson

    • #15632
      Richard Harrison
      Participant

      The first place to check would be Fletchair. You need a spar from either a -1B or -1C. If the corrosion on the spar is that bad, how does the rest of the airframe look? Look at the inside of the skins and for any debonding issues. If it was a late production -1B the factory did primer some of the interior, but not so much on the early ones.
      There is an AA-1B sitting at my airport on that I understand has not flown in well over 10 years. I don’t know what it looks like inside, but I understand the owner is about willing to give it away. I was interested to take a closer look, but I already have my ’76 AA-1B and an AA-1 Yankee project, I am out of time and hangar space as it is….
      Is your son learning to fly in a Cessna 140 or Cherokee 140? I bought a Cessna 120 just after I graduated from High School in the mid 70’s. The tailwheel experience helped with the transition to the swiveling nose wheel.

    • #15636
      Roscoe Rosché
      Keymaster

      Yankee Aviation may have one or two of the 2-place spars.

    • #15637
      Richard Harrison
      Participant

      Whoops, Roscoe is correct. I was thinking that they made a change in the center spar material with the B model as they did with the wings spars to get the GW increase. But a check of the parts catalog shows the same center spar PN 102310-1 was used from the Yankee all the way through the AA-1C. If Yankee aviation has a serviceable one, there is your source!

    • #15641
      Glenn Mori
      Participant

      Wow. Thanks you guys. Cessna 140 to answer Richards question.
      I have not found any delamination yet. I think the engine may even have some compression left in it. Now that we are getting to get it for free I will look into it deeper.
      We just came from in from flying about a hour ago. He nailed 3 landings. 2 three point and one wheel landing. He is finishing his mandatory pres solo written and looks like he will solo this week. He is excited about this plane(N9901L). I will have him call the owner tomorrow to accept his offer and thank him. There is another one on the same ramp (AA1 I believe) that has been taken better care of. We are going to try to see if this available as well. Hopefully less to do to get airworthy.
      We have both enjoyed learning about the Grumman history and so forth.
      Roscoe and GPA. Thank you so much for your great videos. They made me feel comfortable in doing my own Soto pre buy inspection. You will be hearing from us more. My wife is excited as well and now is talking about learning to fly.

      Thanks again, Glenn, Donah and Dawson

    • #15643
      Richard Harrison
      Participant

      Just a little story on my Cessna 120, after buying it and having a friend of mine who had some taildragger time flew the plane home. In the mid 70’s there were no taildragger endorsement requirements, and insurance only stated that a CFI sign-off was needed. I had another friend that was a CFI and owned a Stearman and had a little bit of time in C-140’s give me a checkout. He instructed me in 3 point landings and told me the C-120 could not be wheel landed due to the spring steal gear, it would just bounce you back in the air. He gave me 1.2 hours of dual, signed my logbook and said to just stick to wide runways for awhile.
      Somehow I kept from damaging the plane and only once felt I came close to a ground loop. And I flew out of a field the usually had a stiff crosswind.
      After about 10 hours of mostly touch and go’s, one time I came in a little to fast and planted it on the mains and all went well. I soon found the wheel landings were easier the 3 point.
      That next summer I spent 2 months living out of the plane while I flew around the country SF-LA-Boston-First Flight-KOSH and home. This was with a Narco Mark 4 (Coffee Grinder) radio and a bag stuffed with sectional charts. My parents wondered if I would ever come home. I have great memories of that plane, which is still flying today in England.

    • #15660
      Glenn Mori
      Participant

      That’s a great story I have had mine since I was 21, 1985. Lots of great memories and still making them. I too was only given a demo of wheel landings was signed off for calm conditions only. Same thing, it’s a miracle I didn’t wreck it. Taught myself wheel landings several years later.
      Looks like this Wednesday will be a new memory. Could be the my Stepson(Dawson) solo’s.

      Glenn

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